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Brad Lyerla's avatar

This is a fun discussion. My take is that the testimony is barred. Of course it is about her mental state. That’s why it’s probative. If it were not probative of her mental state, then it would not be admissible.

Plus, it’s too loosey-goosey. In Michigan, I see police officers routinely testifying to the effect that the defendant intended to distribute dope based on the quantity or packaging. There is no meaningful opportunity to cross examine the officer’s experience that purportedly supports the opinion. Same with testimony re the value of controlled substances.

We would never get away with such flimsy expert credentials in civil litigation.

Thanks for the discussion.

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Amy's avatar

Perhaps I am naive, but I don't think the rules of evidence should ever permit any expert to opine, either implicitly or explicitly, as to someone's state of mind. To me, this isn't a matter of policy or text. It is, instead, the result of presuming innocence until guilt is proven. If guilt requires intent, then the prosecution's job is to prove to the jury - - the trier of fact - - that intent was present. Some facts may require expert testimony. And of course experts can disagree, which will always leave the jury trying to determine which expert view to accept as fact. But experts should never be allowed to opine on matters that are outside their area of expertise. And no one is an expert in something that requires time travel and mind reading - - going back in time to the moment at which the incident occurred and determining what was or was not inside the mind of the defendant. I understand the potential conflict between "policy" and "text", but to my unlawyerly mind, this case presents no conflict. Text and policy are uniform - - both clearly prohibit an expert, even one that is credentialed in the human psyche, from opining as to state of mind.

One final point, as someone who has served as a juror on more than five criminal and civil cases: the vast majority of jurors will place an enormous amount of weight on both the implicit and explicit views of an expert. That is even more true when that expert is a member of law enforcement because, for all our faults, we remain a nation of "law and order" adherents. I have been present in the jury room when some jurors have tried to disregard expert testimony in favor of their own world view. But even those jurors assert that they agree with the expert - - they simply twist the expert's view to conform to theirs. All the more reason to insure that the expert doesn't opine on topics that are outside their expertise.

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